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 Post subject: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:53 pm 
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Has anyone here noticed a growing impatient feeling to start a new life using Anastasia's suggestions? I'm a student at UC Merced, and am finally doing what I've always wanted to do in high school: study as much physics as possible to understand how the world works physically as much as I can. I've been to a community college for a few years, including during high school, and have finally gotten into a university to finish my degree... Unfortunately, now that I am here and have already spent 10K on tuition and living expenses and such, I find, after having read only the first of Anastasia's books, that I can no longer stand staying here to accomplish what I always dreamed of. In fact, the longer I spend time here at the university, the larger the feeling gets to get out of here. University is not what I thought it would be. This summer I will be heading to west virginia, to take one step towards making my new dreams of establishing a new life possible. Since I have already spent 1.5K on tuition with money that isn't yet mine, I feel that I need to finish off this semester properly.

Does anyone else get this wrenching feeling that is trying very hard to pull you away from something you've always wanted to do, to something new involving the new ideas we're reading about? Please do respond! I am desperate to hear what other people are experiencing. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:29 pm 
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I can see where you're coming from... I'm a college student too and went through a similar situation so maybe sharing my story might help you out:

About a year before I read the books I had finished one year of college (pre-University where I come from so there's no tuition besides supplies) and I started realizing how school really was killing my creativity and personal thought; it was processing me into a neat little package which I didn't like at all. Even though I loved learning (I'm a science student too) and had top grades, I decided to drop out and do some thinking and exploring before I went any further in my life.

I eventually wound up in Ecuador by myself, without knowing a word of Spanish, with a couple hundred bucks. Needless to say I was pretty isolated and was able to think, but I needed to think more clearly so I fasted for 13 days and basically just sat and thought the whole time. I came to alot of conclusions, especially about where I was going in life and what I should do. I'm not going to share that with you as I think you should find that out for yourself. In the end I realized knowledge was a good thing as long as you don't organize it into right and wrong. Even the wrong answers are useful. I decided I was mature enough to go to school and learn anything I could get my hands on without becoming dogmatic about anything.

I came back home and read the books before I was about to go back to school. At first I was set on finishing my school immediately, but after reading the books I contemplated not going back... until I realized this:

You can't be naive in thinking the world described by Anastasia is immediately accessible to everyone. Sure you can force it to be but I think you'd be short changing yourself of the situation and time you're living in. What is important to realize is your role in this TRANSITION. Because that's what it is... a transition. We're not going to wake up tomorrow with lives that will be ideal to what she described. You should think about the role you have in this transition and not be too naive but at the same time realize whatever you want is possible WITH TIME. You're young I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you have a mindset of what you want to do, things become a lot clearer and decisions are much more easily made. If you feel impatient start thinking about why you feel impatient and what you can learn from it.

As for me this is my plan: I've been back to school for the passed few months and its amazing what you can learn with an intense curiosity and knowing the uses you can have for what is being taught. I plan on finishing this semester. I've just finished seeding my plants for a garden I'm doing on my property along with my mom. We have a small yard but we'll make due. I've become almost cheap because I'm doing my best to save up for just some land. While my land grows and until it starts to bear fruit and can sustain me, I plan on continuing my education so I can use my own knowledge to help transition the world into what I see as a better place for my children.

Do your best to get some land if you can, only because it takes time for it to bear fruit and be able to sustain you. While that is happening, I see no reason why you should quit school if you honestly want to learn. You can always learn it yourself as you work if you don't have the money, but again that's just being a bit impatient. If you're doing a masters, 4 years is a relatively short time. In the meantime do what you can. Plant a tree in your yard... whatever, its up to you.

All the best,
Greg


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:57 am 
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Unfortunately, I'm not in a position here in the U.S. in which I can earn money, so for me the best option would be to finish off this semester, and then I'll have to learn everything myself when I move to West Virginia, where I will be helping build an ecovillage, and working on acquiring land. I feel comfortable learning stuff myself, as I've done it a lot during all of my community college and my first semester of 4-year school. I would actually disagree with you on me being young and having time, because as you said, setting up a new life like the one Anastasia suggests will take a while. I've started growing several different kinds of plants, but things like trees will have to wait until I get to West Virginia.


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:59 am 
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Nice to read a real life stories and questions.
I have a master degree in physics. I thought it is fundamental. And it is. But mean while I found something more fundamental - ME. I found the human is not only in a material world. And the human have this part that is not in the material world, that react to this non material world.
To bring this part to the consciousness ... there is no particular way. In fact there is only one way - yours. Your way, my way to there.
The main question for me is WHAT IF I LIVE IN THE WAY DESCRIBED BY ANASTASIA?

I can't imagine that it is possible here in Canada. So may be, one day it will be in Bulgaria (where I come from) or who knows where.

I know it is not important if my target is to discover my self - to find who I am. Because I am not a physicist. I am not my ID or nationality. I am not my profession. I am not my bank account or properties. WHO I AM?

Meanwhile I have to live where I am - life is running.

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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:11 am 
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In response to Davinder:
Good on you man!
Already read the books and you're a college student. I'm in the same situation, in that I just got out of high school in Aus and am a first yr student at uni...and have read 'em all.
But guess what? Yeah, Anastasia trumps all other so-called experts on every science. What she does is unify the sciences/arts, instead of fragment them.
She expresses almost purely philosophical statements, yet the science always confirms it.
Take nutrition. She says, 'One should eat just as one breathes.'
Uni says, 'Separate and fragment each and every nutritional factor and try to get some positive results that relate to the consumption of this or that nutrient, so that we can go back and tell our boss about it to get paid and create another supplement.'
Uni is backward in every science, and is only now at the piddly beginnings of realising that there's more to each discipline than scholars thought. Uni is not what I thought it would be either, in so many ways.
We're a rare bunch if we've already read the books, but I believe we are the people who have to become the colour in a black-and-white world. We have to be the change, and be the lighthouse, so that our aspirations can be unified with those of others who are very quickly becoming frustrated with the current situation modern society has created for itself.
Just be your best, remain upbeat, and realise just how special you are. People like you and I must do something, or we won't make it in time. Our generation, or those within it who haven't wasted their health away already, are to be the witnesses of an incredible worldly, universal shift. We are going to see an awakening, and the dissolving of that which is dark and illusory.
I'm not really in a position to offer anymore words.

Yours to eternity,
Luke


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:03 am 
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I would actually disagree with you on me being young and having time, because as you said, setting up a new life like the one Anastasia suggests will take a while.


This is what I was trying to get across in my reply, but I'm not the best at expressing myself. Why do you want a life like Anastasia suggests anyway? You're living in a time where you're best bet is at least START, i.e. just get some land, and see where that takes you in your unique circumstance, your unique life. START saving a bit of money for a downpayment on land, it won't take long until you can do that and then you'll be able to buy the land. You don't have to stop what you're doing. Take every few weekends to work the land a bit and get your food and trees going. When you are ready to actually move onto your property and take it up a notch you're already half way there. Even if you were 40 you still have TONS of time. Maybe stop comparing your life to what you think is an ideal one put forth by Anastasia and just work with what you have. I'm sure just reading the book has changed your thought patterns. That was the start so there's no need to get impatient about starting on a new life when every moment you can better yourself and do something conducive to what YOU consider you should be or do.

BETTER YOURSELF SO YOU CAN BETTER THE WORLD, neither can be the best because thats relative.


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:33 am 
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btw, I'm not saying you shouldn't drop everything you're doing and go for it either. It could very well work out and you can always go back to school if you still want to. What matters is what you think you should do. Think things through in detail and you'll see what will be better. If you come to the conclusion that one path is your best bet (ie. stay in school or just get some land somehow and do what you can to get by until your settled) please have the integrity to follow through with what you, I emphasize you, think is best. Think then act, and not in any other order!


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:21 am 
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Thank you for your responses! You have already uplifted my heart with your encouragement! I will do my best and follow my heart and mind. And just so you know though, I have not read all of the books yet. I have only been able to read the first one, and am currently waiting for either the university to get the books, or my order to come in with the second and third books.

May all the best come to all of you! All you need is a thought of where you want to be, and solutions will start popping up all over the place to make your path there!

Davinder Chandhok


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:24 am 
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And one other thing I'd like to mention is that no matter who or where we are, we can try to spread the word about the Anastasia series. I am currently working on that by lending a copy of the first to my writing teacher (and if I'm lucky there, he'll use the book in his next writing courses!), asking all the libraries I've visited to obtain a copy of the books, and telling many people I know about the books.


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:42 am 
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Good morning,
I realize this thread has been dormant for a while, but I'm new to the forum and came across it after connecting with Davinder on another subject. My kids left home this Fall, leaving my wife and I alone in a huge house that we had previously agreed to downsize at this point. She changed her mind and chose to divorce me when I wouldn't go along with her idea, so she is losing the house anyway. I've been gradually simplifying my life, going car-free/raw-food/sustainable. I'm associating with friends (new and old) who are on similar paths. My technocratic background is in aerospace/mechanical engineering so I could go back to a high-paying, insecure wage-slave job, but have instead chosen to build the non-profit sustainable transportation org I founded a few years ago. This Spring, I met a new raw friend through a local-produce email forum that I moderate. She introduced me to the books and I, like others, found myself attracted to everything about the philosophy in the books. While the divorce dust settles I'm not able to make plans or purchases but am taking the actions that will permit me to do so in the future.

Ultimately I would like to have a space of love either in the place I'm in (Morgantown, WV) or the place I'm from (S. Wisconsin) among other co-creators. I still like travelling, particularly Summer long-distance bike touring/camping and hope to continue it as long as the fates allow. I'm also interested in creating a new bike that allows me to travel comfortably in all weather, but still allows me to be in touch with the places I travel through.

Please send me your good intentions, thoughts and posts as I am educated by this transition.
Nick


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:01 pm 
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yes this thread has been dormant quite a while. I'm now working on the sixth book, am almost finished helping renovate our staging house (basically a transition house that people who come to our community can use while establishing themselves), and am much much happier to be here than to still be stuck at California's newest University, where they train you NOT to ask questions, but just to follow their rules and ignore the fact that almost everything you see is terribly disorganized.


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Congratulations on getting the house renovated. Do you know someone in the area named Mick Moogee? I met him at a raw festival, he keeps his home as sort of a halfway house for recovering technocrats - but I don't think he knew about the books until recently.

How many people are in your community? When will you be accepting visitors?
Thanks,
Nick


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:29 pm 
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I do not know someone by the name of Mick Moogee, but I only arrived here this past May, so that may be the reason. We have about 8-10 people in our community right now, and I think we can accept visitors almost any time, it just really depends on the exact time you want to come by and visit.


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 Post subject: Re: old life to new life transition
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:28 pm 
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This site is now awake again!
Greetings everyone, this is Robert........It is inspiring to read about those of you half my age who have been led
to The Books and have begun to act on them, those years of my life were boged down with ignorance and mis-
direction, and I had a great deal to learn about the workings of relationships.
After a few years of Ashram life and a couple decades of meditation I was given a copy of the first book by someone
I trust, and before the book was finished I ordered the complete set. For awhile now I have been rereading them
and taking vast amounts of notes, adding questions, formulating some answers and asking for guidance.
I have worked outside most of my life and much of that has been with plants and animals and this movement
is someting I have been looking for a half century now.
Many seeds have been collected from surrounding neighborhoods, especially those that will take the longest
to grow, so when I step out the front door of my apartment there is just enough room to squeak by the plants.

every obstacle is a challenge and strengthens our volition.


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